Matthew Stone: Thinking about Goethe’s influence on Beuys and even Beuys’ on my own thinking. It could be that, in every age, there are cultural ideas that begin to define the limit, or the potential, of the new thinkers. It becomes important to try to understand the ideas of the past, but not to take them as something, which should be absolute.
Louwrien Wijers: Every mind interprets it differently, and there freedom starts. Because if you say you have to understand this in this way, you would already be a Nazi. So the beauty of wisdom is that it fits every person. And if we just stay away from talking about differences, then we get somewhere, because we want to go towards compassion, towards going together, towards feeling together. The future is within each of us, as Beuys says. It is already there, just like when a tree comes, in the seed the tree is already there. So all of us carry within us an idea of the future.
MS: My instinct is always to try and connect seemingly disparate entities, the co-existent and passionate voices in your interviews has provided me with a diagram for this type of thinking and an idea of distant collaboration. There are different visions of the world and it’s future, but conflict arises when people seek to impose their vision of reality forcefully onto other people. I wonder whether we can foster the potential for the coexistence of visions -- and for those visions to remain uncompromised.
LW: If I have stability somewhere inside that whole being that I am, then I can always come back to that place of rest, and then the differences don’t touch you. Live as a small universe [and you] will always be able to go back to their inner source and balance more easily than before.
MS: Each person is a universe... of their thoughts, of their intuitions, of their emotions.